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    A short guide how to spot a bad peer , card faker, paid server.

    Paid server

    Nobody likes pay servers because they bringing downfall to cardsharing. They making providers very angry and forcing them for the CS hunt and changingfor more and more complex encryption systems.
    They use good peers as a donkeys for their commercial activities
    If you spot a pay server never, ever deal with it.

    The only confirmed way to find if your peer is paid server or not
    check his DNS if it will come up in the search results with his commercial activities –STAY AWAY.

    Sometimes some people getting “hacked” because of their own laziness.
    They leave default usernames and passwords


    They do not change default ports and leave open DMZ
    obviously it's not adifficult to get access to such a system
    later they find their configs published on internet

    if DNS came in google search results due to that
    it could mean he was not careful enough himself or with who he shared
    it is your choice would you share with him or not …. me wouldn't...... it's not a big deal to change DNS if it became public

    Card fakers

    First at all it became very popular with Cccam... Oscam made things even more easier for card fakers. And inevitably it's bringing a shadow to honest Oscamusers.

    The easiest way to fake the card is loop the n line with cccam
    never give your n lines to anybody..... if you want to share using “n line” you better usechameleon2 protocol

    It may be quite difficult to spot a card faker:
    have a look at his posts... if numer of “local” cards is growing and growing or different locals in different posts, is at least suspicious. But most likely he is faker
    Another thing make yourself a simple calculation. How much it would cost to subscribe a tthe same time for SLY UK, SLY DE, SLY IT and Nova and maybe few others as well.... nobody will do may have few other (much cheaper ) cards even then it's not an easy and you have to be tv crazy (few people are)

    how spot if somebody stealing your card (resharing what he not supposed to be)
    I would find it by ECM usage
    every case is the different and I do not want to set too tight limit but if your peeris constantly using 1000-3000 ECM an hour I would ask him some questions.
    Just reassess the situation what do you give him and what is he giving you in return,is he sharing with you or abusing your trust?

    Another example I do not understand:
    let's say post like this:

    24/7 debian server (or ubuntu) with free-x looking for good peers

    why the hell on earth would you build debian or ubuntu server if you have one one card worth pennies....and invest a lot of money and effort into such asystem when all you need to start with is dm500?

    Please report the bad Peers! For CCcam or Gbox depending from your camd.
    We have to keep theforum clean from scam.... and to help genuine members

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    A good schematic using cccam from our friend WinRxp1024


    A classic card sharing setup consist of three parts: card reader, server and a client. In order to be connected to a similar system and to be able to exchange decryption keys a communication protocol is also required. CCcam is a tool that include all this components and therefore is a all in one tool for card sharing. CCcam uses custom communication protocol named CCcam protocol.

    Configuration method 1
    This is the configuration how CCcam was intended to be used. CCcam read the card, send the data to the server who shares the keys with the internal client or through the internet with the partner server. The partner server has similar configuration and is able to exchange keys (from his own reader) an also to reshare to different clients that understand CCcam protocol (MGcamd, Scam, FlyCCcam, etc).

    Configuration method 2
    If a card is not recognized by CCcam, then external reader can be used to access the card: NewCS, OScam, Sbox, etc.
    Important: the communication between external reader and CCcam is done using NewCAMD protocol (N-lines). Only version 2.1.3 or lower show this kind of connection as Local card (hop0).

    Abuse method 1
    Since CCcam 2.13 or lower show a N-line as Local card, many people abuse this and are using remote N-lines to fake their local card. External readers (like NewCS, OScam, Sbox, etc) are creating unlimited number of N-lines from one original card so unlimited number of Fake Cards can be created.

    Abuse method 2
    Using OScam, the process of faking cards go one step further. OScam convert C-line to N-lines so situation described in Abuse method 1 section can occur. This method is also named card stealing.

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