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    what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    Looks it became Quite popular doing a cacheEX for now
    Guys can you please state your Locals and % of ECM's taken from Cache after Using CacheEX

    for Example I among my locals I have
    SKY UK
    Cyfra
    SKY Calcio
    Viasat
    JSC 1-10
    Freex
    Tivusat

    58% ECM comes from cache

    I'm not not doing any cache exchange and quite happy with my stats

    I think you just creating a "buble" servers, when cacheEX have nothing to do with reducing load of your card, but only gaining extra ECMs from packages you do not have..... well I may be wrong try to convince me then

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    If don`t like cacheex it`s a simple don`t use it.
    So many people use cacheex, be smart and get some cache. For cacheex you don`t need to have any local you need only to have good cache for exchange
    If you want try it if is useless for you - easy throw it without losing on casual peers.
    In the future maybe cacheex will be the killer on paid servers.

    That is advantages for me and they are enough to be part of cacheex exchange.

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    I think my point is proving itself......
    I have nothing against CacheEX...... I'm against abusing it......

    funny to hear that no card is needed ....just the cache........so what is the point of such a "server"

    that is the reason dropped such a "servers" they can not offer anything in return........ it's not a share It's a rape

    In the future maybe cacheex will be the killer on paid servers
    on the contrary this is what all of them using

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    Maybe you are angry because you a pay lot of cards but with cache ex is not needed anymore to have many locals. You need only to have good (recently) normal exchange that provide big and fresh cache.

    For me cacheex=3 help me to limit the load from my locals and optimize usage on normal cache. That is for exchange part.
    For watching give me ecm with low time. I have stable lines for all that i need to watc,h but cachex is like backup and optimization for him same time.
    So if i receive good cache he replace the regular request.

    For cacheex you don`t need to have an locals but you need to have access to provider with proxy no matter which hop is. Cacheex help to people to watch freeze free the providers that are located in higher hop in his exchange.

    Here is some statistics from my locals exchange to see how exactly work in live. Normal exchange supported from cacheex=3:

    3/08/2012 01:07:02 8C0 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:E31B): cache3 (85 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:04 8CB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1589/67:047F): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:05 8CC0 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:604F): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:06 8CB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:39ED): found (110 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:08 8CB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1592/67:B4D4): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:12 8C90 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:C66F): cache3 (83 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:12 8CjC0 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:B7CE): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:15 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/20ED/82:AA20): rejected group (10 ms) (0/0/0/0) (no matching reader)
    3/08/2012 01:07:16 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:1BD5): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:17 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1580/67:1AC3): found (110 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:18 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/0B54/67:B7E8): not found (35 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:20 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1589/67:8DF5): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:22 8CB90 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:574E): found (90 ms) by bulcrypt
    3/08/2012 01:07:23 8C0C0 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:ED6D): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:23 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1592/67:30D7): cache3 (65 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:23 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/3609/6C:B4B9): rejected group (10 ms) (0/0/0/0) (no matching reader)
    3/08/2012 01:07:26 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:2A35): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:32 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1580/67:DC4D): found (110 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:32 8C990 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:50FC): cache3 (87 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:33 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1589/67:91D4): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:36 8CAB0 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:1171): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:36 8C970 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:62D8): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:38 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1592/67:484D): found (108 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:42 8C920 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:F4DD): cache3 (87 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:45 8C970 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:0016): cache3 (11 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:46 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:02A2): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:47 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1580/67:C16E): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:52 8C920 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:0A1A): found (90 ms) by bulcrypt
    3/08/2012 01:07:52 8C970 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:C430): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:07:53 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1592/67:54F3): found (111 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:07:56 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:8B5C): found (109 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:08:02 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1580/67:A1E1): found (112 ms) by conax
    3/08/2012 01:08:02 8C920 c oscamhd (5581&000000/0000/0008/4F:7077): found (90 ms) by bulcrypt
    3/08/2012 01:08:02 8C970 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:A91B): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:08:06 8CA40 c cccam0B01 (0B01&000000/0000/1422/67:4A4A): found (110 ms) by conax

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    why should I be angry? :))
    ecms have to be taken from real cards..... nothing will change that:)

    3/08/2012 01:07:23 8C0C0 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:ED6D): cache3 (10 ms)
    3/08/2012 01:08:02 8C970 c cccam5581 (5581&000000/0000/0005/4F:A91B): cache3 (10 ms)
    how can it be real, not altered ECM?
    my softcam on home lan gives more..... about 14ms

    that is especially when most of you guys put delay on CacheEX as well...
    it means this particular ECM is ignoring any known to humankind laws of Physics :)

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    This user cccam... is on same pc (genuine cccam that I use for casual exchange ). Because cccam can not read my locals I read it in oscam located in same pc and send lines to cccam. So you say that 10 msec in 127.0.0.1 exchange is beyond the physics I say than you don't have enough knowledge about different software camds. So please keep respect to others or I will remove this thread.

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    10 ms to read from smart card?????? - not possible

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    My friend is not read from card this is read from cache there is a huge difference. Please first read about cacheex=3 sharing. There is an joker for you in cacheex=3 sharing not use directly read from card.

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    this 10ms number is really strange...... think yourself
    could be bug?..... I do not know


    to the point........
    that 10ms is really strange number (just please do not upset again)
    if ECM is taken from cache , then it's pretty much instant ( I just ignore nano seconds)
    the times shown must be the total ECM time, it just makes no sense to show the time for the cache to send ECM, because then 10ms is too much (as I said earlier it has to be pretty much instant)

    for now the question is what strange time is it 10ms?

    for now to make the things easier I will talk about card in internal reader, using DVBAPI..... because no time will be lost in network
    the fastest ECM time I Ever came up with was about 35-40ms when using "shitty pirate cards"
    for the 5581 card REALLY GOOD ECM time should be about 80ms (correct me if I wrong)
    but never ever ANY Smartcard can process ECM of 10ms, not even a pirate one


    I repeat again first at all ECM has to be taken from card, and then processed by cache and be given away.... and total time shown

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    Re: what do you gain when using CacheEX?

    See how it`s work bulcrypt has 10 sec between requests i set 6 sec time to expire some ecm. So if i have valid ecm in cache he is received immediately from clients. 10 sec between next request is big amount of time to be buffered and downloading next portion of cache. Also because all is inside in pc and cacheex is directly in my oscam that is the reason for good times. It`s hard to me to explain you because is slightly different compared to regular request with cards. When i watch on my receiver with dvbapi i don`t take responses with 10 msec sky uk is around 150 msec.

    So main thing is you don`t have remote request for some channel. You download all cache from your peers periodically and this cache is located in your pc not somewhere. Cacheex=3 is offline service in basic description and if have to use the cache for many channels you should have many peers that send you different cache.

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