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    mode=3 assistance

    afternoon folks
    i cant seem to grasp the tutorial up at the top of this forum by lenny on mode3 cachex.

    can anyone help with the below example?, its mainly the group assignment bits.

    (ME)
    readers:-
    reader a = local = group 1
    reader b = share = group 2
    reader c = share = group 3
    reader d = cachex3 = group ?

    users:-
    user a = me = group 1,2,3
    user b = me2 = group 1,2,3
    user c = cachex3 = group ?

    (FREIND)
    readers:-
    reader a = local = group 1
    reader b = share = group 2
    reader c = cachex3 = group ?

    users:-
    user a = me = group 1,2
    user b = me2 = group 1,2
    user c = cachex3 = group ?


    we both want to exchange cache on the local cards only.
    should it be like this?

    (ME)
    readers:-
    reader a = local = group 1
    reader b = share = group 2
    reader c = share = group 3
    reader d = cachex3 = group 1

    users:-
    user a = me = group 1,2,3,20
    user b = me2 = group 1,2,3,20
    user c = cachex3 = group 20

    (FREIND)
    readers:-
    reader a = local = group 1
    reader b = share = group 2
    reader c = cachex3 = group 1

    users:-
    user a = me = group 1,2,20
    user b = me2 = group 1,2,20
    user c = cachex3 = group 20


    cheers

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    Re: mode=3 assistance


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    Re: mode=3 assistance

    I have cache 3 running no problem with 6 peers. Here is how it works:

    The [reader] becomes the user and the [User] becomes the reader...... so to set it up right you need to do this:

    [account]
    user = user1
    pwd = user1
    description = Cache 3 user 2
    disabled = 0
    group = 7

    [account]
    user = user2
    pwd = user2
    description = Cache 3 user 2
    disabled = 0
    group = 8

    [account]
    user = user3
    pwd = user3
    description = Cache 3 user 3
    disabled = 0
    group = 9

    [account]
    user = user4
    pwd = user4
    description = Cache 3 user 4
    disabled = 0
    group = 10

    ---------------------------------------

    [reader]
    label = user1
    description =
    enable = 1
    group = 8,9,10

    [reader]
    label = user2
    description =
    enable = 1
    group = 7,9,10

    [reader]
    label = user3
    description =
    enable = 1
    group = 7,8,10

    [reader]
    label = user4
    description =
    enable = 1
    group =7,8,9

    Remember the [reader] is now SENDING the cache so you NEVER send him his OWN group....

    Now:

    I have found that if I add the above groups to my NORMAL peers ie: 7,8,9,10 that they get ecm from my cache first every time (if I have it) and shows as (cache3) before reading my local card.

    I hope this helps you, I cannot take credit for this as a friend of mine ( Mark you know who you are ) spent 3 days tuting me to get this right.

    Napper

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    Re: mode=3 assistance

    Well.., for the most part you are right

    Altough, I don't understand why you use al these groups, other than you want to prevent 'loopback' from the same user to the same reader..

    But in mode-3 and mode-1, loopback does not exist, so you can put all cache- readers/users into the same groups.
    All your normal (non-cache) users, should have (at least) the same readergroup assigned of all cache-ex users.

    --

    Therefore, i advise to let the groups in all cache-users/readers overlap the groups you are using with the normal readers.

    For example:


    [account]
    user = user1
    pwd = user1
    description = SKY UK CARD USER WITH CACHE-EX SUPPORT
    disabled = 0
    group = 1

    [account]
    user = user2
    pwd = user2
    description = SKY IT CARD USER WITH CACHE-EX SUPPORT
    disabled = 0
    group = 2

    [account]
    user = user3
    pwd = user3
    description = SKY IT / UK CARD USER WITH CACHE-EX SUPPORT
    disabled = 0
    group = 1,2

    [account]
    user = user4
    pwd = user4
    description = CACHE-EX USER 1 - Mode-3
    disabled = 0
    cacheex=3
    group =
    1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS

    [account]

    user = user5
    pwd = user5
    description = CACHE-EX USER 2 - Mode-3
    disabled = 0
    cacheex=3
    group =
    1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS

    ---------------------------------------

    [reader]
    label = reader1
    description = REAL CARD READER SKY UK
    enable = 1
    group = 1

    [reader]
    label = reader2
    description = REAL CARD READER SKY IT
    enable = 1
    group = 2

    [reader]
    label = reader3
    description = CACHE-EX READER 1 - Mode3
    enable = 1
    cacheex=3
    group = 1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS


    [reader]
    label = user4
    description = CACHE-EX READER 2 - Mode3
    enable = 1
    cacheex=3
    group =
    1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS

    Hope this helps!

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    Re: mode=3 assistance

    Quote Originally Posted by CapNCooK View Post
    Well.., for the most part you are right

    Altough, I don't understand why you use al these groups, other than you want to prevent 'loopback' from the same user to the same reader..

    But in mode-3 and mode-1, loopback does not exist, so you can put all cache- readers/users into the same groups.
    All your normal (non-cache) users, should have (at least) the same readergroup assigned of all cache-ex users.

    --

    Therefore, i advise to let the groups in all cache-users/readers overlap the groups you are using with the normal readers.

    For example:


    [account]
    user = user1
    pwd = user1
    description = SKY UK CARD USER WITH CACHE-EX SUPPORT
    disabled = 0
    group = 1

    [account]
    user = user2
    pwd = user2
    description = SKY IT CARD USER WITH CACHE-EX SUPPORT
    disabled = 0
    group = 2

    [account]
    user = user3
    pwd = user3
    description = SKY IT / UK CARD USER WITH CACHE-EX SUPPORT
    disabled = 0
    group = 1,2

    [account]
    user = user4
    pwd = user4
    description = CACHE-EX USER 1 - Mode-3
    disabled = 0
    cacheex=3
    group =
    1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS

    [account]

    user = user5
    pwd = user5
    description = CACHE-EX USER 2 - Mode-3
    disabled = 0
    cacheex=3
    group =
    1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS

    ---------------------------------------

    [reader]
    label = reader1
    description = REAL CARD READER SKY UK
    enable = 1
    group = 1

    [reader]
    label = reader2
    description = REAL CARD READER SKY IT
    enable = 1
    group = 2

    [reader]
    label = reader3
    description = CACHE-EX READER 1 - Mode3
    enable = 1
    cacheex=3
    group = 1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS


    [reader]
    label = user4
    description = CACHE-EX READER 2 - Mode3
    enable = 1
    cacheex=3
    group =
    1,2 # <= ALL GROUPS YOU USE IN AL NORMAL/PROXY READERS

    Hope this helps!
    Most confused now as for 3 days we ( Mark and I ) tried all ways and got loop backs - that's why I showed my post in colour as it works 100% perfect and has been running now for nearly 4 days without problems. I see that you have added Sky IT and Sky UK - I take it that is for filtering which peer has local card in cache 3? - would have thought that exchanging cache does not need such filters.

    Thank you by the way for coming up and helping here. There are too many people doing this wrong and causing problems for others. Without your knowledge we would be lost in a sea of cache.....

    Napper

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    Re: mode=3 assistance

    Most confused now as for 3 days we ( Mark and I ) tried all ways and got loop backs
    Well, don't get too confused, you understand the concept of mode-3 perfectly i think.
    Its just the groups assignment you made because of the detected 'loopbacks' - which do not exist - that's concerning me. :)

    --

    How do you define and/or detected these 'loopbacks' ?
    Do you mean your RAM is filling up ?

    About the SKY IT/UK. I tried to represent a mix of two 'normal' readers with two real / different cards, and two cache readers/users in my example above, and they has nothing to do with filtering or such.

    So in the example, i put in:
    user 1 - REAL user (dreambox or such), with accessrights to use reader1, making use of your cache-ex cache (because cache is also in group 1,2).
    user 2 - REAL user (dreambox or such), with accessrights to use reader2, making use of your cache-ex cache (because cache is also in group 1,2).
    user 3 - REAL user (dreambox or such), with accessrights to use reader1 and reader2, making use of your cache-ex cache (because cache is made available for group 1,2)
    user 4 - CACHE-EX user 1, receiving cache, and making that cache accessable for all peers in group 1,2
    user 5 - CACHE-EX user 2, receiving cache, and making that cache accessable for all peers in group 1,2

    reader 1 - REAL cardreader 1 , with real card inserted
    reader 2 - REAL cardreader 2 , with real card inserted
    reader 3 - CACHE-EX reader 1, transmitting all cache received by and/or generated in group 1,2
    reader 4 - CACHE-EX reader 2, transmitting all cache received by and/or generated in group 1,2

    Hope this helps!

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    It is indeed ram filling up. I have now set all cache peers to hop4 , which appears to be perfect. I have 2GB ram and using ihop can now see MEM% is around the 1.5 mark 247, were as before it was up to 12% at times. I thought it was memory leak, but turned out to be filling of the ram from cache.

    Napper

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    Re: mode=3 assistance

    Quote Originally Posted by Qnapper View Post
    It is indeed ram filling up. I have now set all cache peers to hop4 , which appears to be perfect. I have 2GB ram and using ihop can now see MEM% is around the 1.5 mark 247, were as before it was up to 12% at times. I thought it was memory leak, but turned out to be filling of the ram from cache.

    Napper
    This is a memory leak / bug in oscam, and has nothing to do with loopbacks.

    See here: http://www.satsupreme.com/showthread...with-cacheex-3
    And here: http://streamboard.de.vu:8001/ticket/2676

    Revert to 7190, as it is the latest stable build for me with cache-ex
    (although 7190 still uses a little more CPU, but that's no problem for me)

    ThX

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    Will have a look at build 7190, currently using 7180 for past 4/5 days seams fine.

    Thanks again I´m sure many will read the above with interest.

    Napper

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    Re: mode=3 assistance

    If you want to reduce cpu usage and provide stable connection on your peers always set in global config.

    clientmaxidle = 0

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