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    Post Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    With the release of the GP 4.3, we have added a feature to the Blue panel to detect fake Dreambox clones. We want to show our protest against clones and replicas of Dreamboxes. It cannot be in our interest, to allow the fake boxes to hard the big dreambox community and in fact our beloved hobby.
    Like some of you should know, some weeks ago a new box came to the market. It’s sold as a completely new development.
    But if you check that box exactly, you will soon find out that not only the same images, software and drivers were used, but also the nearly identical hardware, such as for example in the Dreambox DM500. According to some owners of this new box, it is being shipped and sold with a preinstalled Gemini Image, which is not in our interest. Even in the manufacturers forum, Gemini images where posted with a warning “runs only on Box XYZ”.

    We as a Dreambox board and Developer of the Gemini Images can’t tolerate this trend. It is not in our interest that our know-how, our knowledge of the Dreamboxes, and our time is used by a third party manufactorer to sell his copies with our software

    In fact, the truth is that these manufactorers are themselves not able to provide a self developed image for their receivers.

    The Blue Panel server is operated, managed and financed by private funds. Also the support we offer for the Gemini images and the genuine Dreamboxes is exploited by the fake clone developers and owners.

    We can not prevent these people from using the Gemini images, but what we can do is making it as hard as possible for these people to gain money with our work. Therefore, we implemented in the images that are also running on the boxes described above a lock for the BluePanel server. The detection mechanism, whether it is a replica or a Dreambox, has been activated in the current DM500 release. Other Box types will follow. If a box is identified as a non-genuine clone of a Dreambox, the access to the BluePanel is locked.
    Since this method of detection is still very new, it could unfortunately occur that even genuine boxes are identified as fakes and as a consequence the BluePanel would be locked also on original Dreamboxes. In the meantime, there are some known problems where repaired boxes can’t by recognized as genuine due to the replaced hardware parts. We will do everything the reduce the number of false identifications but nevertheless we cannot decrease the error rate to zero, as the necessary data from DMM is not available. If your Box is falsely identified as a fake box, please understand that we do this in order to maintain the Dreambox community.

    We ask all users of our images to do everything possible to ensure that our hobby can live on and we will fight together against such unfair methods. We as developers want our Gemini images only to run on Dreamboxes...


    THANKS GEMINI TEAM

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    Post Re: Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    Announcement !!!
    In future the Images for for the Dreambox (7000, 5620 and 500) will only be released 1 or 2 times a year. Then of course based on an actual CVS.

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    Re: Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    thank u Zanzi@

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    Re: Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    I´m afraid my both Dreamboxes, a DM7000 and a DM7020, are now falsely identified as fake boxes considering the message of the Gemini Team above. When going to Blue Panel to download cams I get the message: "Can´t resolve hostname......". Anybody else? So far (until today) the Blue Panel worked OK. It´s hard to believe that the Gemini Team would, in order to disable fake boxes to use the Blue Panel, do something to lock it on some original boxes also.

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    Re: Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    For Nytrobox 7000 (clone of DM)500

    The new Gemini check mac adress of your dream and if your mac adress not start with 00:09:34 you can`t enter in blue panel.

    try with this : input INIT in /var/ect

    Then you can change mac adress with some unix editor (I found that)

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    Re: Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    Is it for Nytrobox 7000 (never heard of it) or genuine Dreamboxes also? Where can I see the mac address m8? I use Gemini 420 on both Dreamboxes.

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    Re: Important message Gemini Team (clone dreambox)

    Problem with the Blue Panel solved. My internet provider changed DNS IP, so I had to change nameserver IP in my communication setup. Thanks anyway pola0.

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