Still, we all here in this wonderful satellite forum, of course, yet we gotta the various 'p' versions in our satellite decoders . . . I knew that someone here and out there does gathering the satellite channel providers' code keys and posted it here. But I seldom to find out HOW does they discovered the providers' CONTROL WORDS ? If someone here knew how to find it either by special access to that mode or have their device being debugged to enables to find Control Words, then pls post it here or pm me. Thanks.