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    No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    Hi , i bought a Gamma card for 60$ and i thought i can trust the seller.
    may be i was wrong.
    anyway, when i try to program it , got error "no atr".
    after many hours of trying many things , by a chance i put gamma card in a starsat 7300 ( with Ali-C cpu and support for Abracadabra card)
    and then it recognize the card as Abracadabra card and start programing the card.
    and after about 3 minutes , the card opened showtime , ...

    I don't know if from the first place the seller sold me the Abracadabra card in place of Gamma
    OR
    it was a dead no atr Gamma card which i convert it to Abracadabra.
    Anyway, working Abracadabra (worth 30$) is better than dead Gamma (paid 60$)

    the fact is that , Abracadabra is a card which ,as i know, no receiver or card reader or Cam can not recognize or detect it.
    So if u have a dead gamma from the begining, then maybe it's not gamma at all. ( cheating sellers )
    So as a last shot , u can try what i did.
    And also if it's possible to convert Gamma to Abra then maybe it's possible to convert Abra to Gamma. (Abra is cheaper and easier to buy) , also need to remind that Abra is supporting by Moresat team which have Gamma's irdeto2 algorithm too
    Any idea plz ?

    Also right now the atr of the card starts with "3B".... and i think gamma atr starts with "3B".... too.

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    Thumbs up Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    Quote Originally Posted by BobZombiE View Post
    Hi , i bought a Gamma card for 60$ and i thought i can trust the seller.
    may be i was wrong.
    anyway, when i try to program it , got error "no atr".
    after many hours of trying many things , by a chance i put gamma card in a starsat 7300 ( with Ali-C cpu and support for Abracadabra card)
    and then it recognize the card as Abracadabra card and start programing the card.
    and after about 3 minutes , the card opened showtime , ...

    I don't know if from the first place the seller sold me the Abracadabra card in place of Gamma
    OR
    it was a dead no atr Gamma card which i convert it to Abracadabra.
    Anyway, working Abracadabra (worth 30$) is better than dead Gamma (paid 60$)

    the fact is that , Abracadabra is a card which ,as i know, no receiver or card reader or Cam can not recognize or detect it.
    So if u have a dead gamma from the begining, then maybe it's not gamma at all. ( cheating sellers )
    So as a last shot , u can try what i did.
    And also if it's possible to convert Gamma to Abra then maybe it's possible to convert Abra to Gamma. (Abra is cheaper and easier to buy) , also need to remind that Abra is supporting by Moresat team which have Gamma's irdeto2 algorithm too
    Any idea plz ?

    Also right now the atr of the card starts with "3B".... and i think gamma atr starts with "3B".... too.

    It's very funny my friend. It seem like a fairytale with Ali baba and the 40 thief s.
    My greetings.

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    Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    Quote Originally Posted by sarman View Post

    It's very funny my friend. It seem like a fairytale with Ali baba and the 40 thief s.
    My greetings.
    If my english is not so good to explain , so you cann't get what i mean
    Or
    if you don't have enough information about these smart cards ,
    then you cannot say it's "funny"

    I was trying to share my experience and help.

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    Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    BobZombie i say well done at least you got some thing to work and did not wast your money like alot of others
    Cheers

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    Talking Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    Quote Originally Posted by sarman View Post

    It's very funny my friend. It seem like a fairytale with Ali baba and the 40 thief s.
    My greetings.
    Nah he's absolutely right, the abra/vista/kebab are ALL gammacards (same factory) and the only thing different on it is the OS !

    Just to rip you guyz off somewhat more.

    Cheers
    Fx

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    Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    So there should be a way to convert them together !!???

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    Angry Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    Hi,i also have a gammacard?When i try to program it on my pc that have a
    usb to rs-232,as i dont have direkt comport outlet.The programmer says
    This is not a gammacard,the ATR is F7 and so on.I tryed on a pc with a
    rs-232 outlet and it says This is not a gammacard,the ATR is 3b and so.
    Been using cas3+,and Infinity usb Phonix.Got my card from a Austrian
    card shop,and it is written gamma on it.

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    Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    What is the full ATR?
    3B ........... ?

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    Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    ATR is 3b9f210e47414d4,could be a number missing cos i dont have
    acsess to that pc right now.

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    Re: No atr or dead gamma cards <= Read this

    Well the ATR is indeed incomplete but it does look like a Gamma card.
    The full ATR should be
    ATR: 3B 9F 21 0E 47 41 4D 4D 41 43 41 52 44 20 56 20 31 2E 3x xx

    So at least you know you have a Gamma card - there are many complete fakes about.

    I suspect it is the USB programmer/cable that is the problem.

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