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    Καλυτερα να το αποφυγεις εντελως. Παντως απ οσο ξερω δεν εχει καποια διαφορα αν χρησιμοποιησεις το ενα η το αλλο!

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    nai re magges alla apo oti akougete to moirasma mporei na entopistei apo tin kiria kai na ginoun silipseis.
    einai ligo epikindino. an exo adiko as me diorthosei kapios pou kserei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosvih View Post
    nai re magges alla apo oti akougete to moirasma mporei na entopistei apo tin kiria kai na ginoun silipseis.
    einai ligo epikindino. an exo adiko as me diorthosei kapios pou kserei.
    Kamia sxesi. Gia na xtipithi to CS prepei na exei stiriksi ton paroxon. Mexri simera afto den exei simvei kai oute prokite logo tou oti i kiria einai kai ekini paroxos kai an oi alloi tin voithisoun voithan amesa ton antipalo tous paroxo pou apo oti katalavenete afta sti xora mas den ginontai. Sto diktio tis mono ginontai paranomes kinisis traffic shaping na piasoun alla einai toso megalo to kostos ton mixanimaton gia afti ti doulia pou an katsoun kai to zigisoun poio poli tous kostizei o elenxos para na afisoun kapoious na mirazoun.
    O monos tropos xtipimatos tou CS einai na miothi to orio ton ECM pou mporei na apokodikopoiisi i karta kati pou efoson tha sinexizoun na iparxoun ta PVR tha simainei pos mirasma mexri 5-6 client ola tha einai OK, eksalou tin pliopsifia edo mesa aftos o arithmos client tous niazei. Oi alloi pou einai kai kala "hobbystes" kai konomane me to CS as katsoune sto pagoto..

    Episis gia to filo pou rotaei gia to vpn poio piso.. nai file mou ginete kanonikotata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosvih View Post
    nai re magges alla apo oti akougete to moirasma mporei na entopistei apo tin kiria kai na ginoun silipseis.
    einai ligo epikindino. an exo adiko as me diorthosei kapios pou kserei.
    file mou NAI eine efikto na se entopisoun...den eine psema... paragodes vasikoi einei omos
    na dineis sthn mish a8hna na dineis se 4net na to les padou na to kseroun oloi na se karfosi
    kapios pelaths/////ean dineis sto koumparo ston parera sou kai sto adelfo sou ...kai kratan
    to stoma tous kleisto den exis kai pola na fovi8eis..
    to cs an to kanis epagelmatika 8elis alla <<fruta >> na peksis den arki to dremboxaki
    ta analyse meses akres lypes o @Roulitsas se pio pano post///eki pezis me allou
    @@ kai fysika exis tin asfaleia tou oti den 8a sou vroun tipote.
    kedrikh idea:
    home cs=asfalh
    profesinal cs= asfalh mono me <<gnosis>> kai analogo kostos

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluechri View Post
    Kamia sxesi. Gia na xtipithi to CS prepei na exei stiriksi ton paroxon. Mexri simera afto den exei simvei kai oute prokite logo tou oti i kiria einai kai ekini paroxos kai an oi alloi tin voithisoun voithan amesa ton antipalo tous paroxo pou apo oti katalavenete afta sti xora mas den ginontai. Sto diktio tis mono ginontai paranomes kinisis traffic shaping na piasoun alla einai toso megalo to kostos ton mixanimaton gia afti ti doulia pou an katsoun kai to zigisoun poio poli tous kostizei o elenxos para na afisoun kapoious na mirazoun.
    O monos tropos xtipimatos tou CS einai na miothi to orio ton ECM pou mporei na apokodikopoiisi i karta kati pou efoson tha sinexizoun na iparxoun ta PVR tha simainei pos mirasma mexri 5-6 client ola tha einai OK, eksalou tin pliopsifia edo mesa aftos o arithmos client tous niazei. Oi alloi pou einai kai kala "hobbystes" kai konomane me to CS as katsoune sto pagoto..

    Episis gia to filo pou rotaei gia to vpn poio piso.. nai file mou ginete kanonikotata.
    8a apadiso kai se sena giati den ta kseris kala ta pramata
    ase tin 4net apo ekso sniffari asystolos eidika portes pano apo 10000
    o ote mporei na dosei pelati tou mono me eisagelea ..
    alla telika ton dinei.
    oso afora to surf lock ton karton exi ly8ei ...edo kai kairo
    to neo frouto pou eskase h 8a skash muth eine to aglonet(diki mou onomasia)
    afto to poustiko stelnei mazi me ta cw kai 1 byte ston provaider
    fhmes lene oti me 10 cw mporei na dosi olo to mac tis kartas
    ston paroxo..me ta gnosta apotelesmata.
    to nds3 exi kani tetoia kinhsh kai min ksexnas einei to idio prama
    me tous olandous tis irdto.. afta ta nea tis aleksadras

    oso afora to vpn den kerdizeis apolitos tipota..kai eksigo:
    esto porta 13000 open kai alisferisi me 30 clients ana 10 second ...se snifer tis 4 net ...alla kodikopihsh aes ...ti kani niaou niaou sta
    keramidia??? pezi o server fifa on line me 30?? h eine se peer kai dinei mp3...min trela8oume

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    Re: Μοίρασμα κάρτας [cs] - ΜΟΝΟ ΣΥΖΗΤΗΣΕΙΣ !

    σε vpn δεν τους νοιάζει τι κάνω φτιάχνω server pacman και παίζω σιγά μην τους ρωτήσω κιόλας εκτός από forthnet που είναι και θα παραμείνει μία μαλακία

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    VPN kaneis kanonikota kai sti forthnet kai as prospathisoun na spasoun 2048 encryption klidi.. an to kanoun xalali tous tha einai magkes

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    Quote Originally Posted by xaniaras View Post
    8a apadiso kai se sena giati den ta kseris kala ta pramata
    ase tin 4net apo ekso sniffari asystolos eidika portes pano apo 10000
    Den me katalavaineis. Antilamvanese ti exoplismo thelei gia na snifaris tous 2 ekatomiria pelates pou exei h forthnet?(min to perneis to noumero tis metritis). Milame pos oso einai o proipologismos tis kirias gia to 2010 tha prepei na dapanithi gia afto to logo... 1 to kratoumeno.

    Quote Originally Posted by xaniaras View Post
    o ote mporei na dosei pelati tou mono me eisagelea ..
    alla telika ton dinei.
    Kai pos to kanei vre kai o OTE afto? oti isxiei gia tin F0rθnet isxiei kai gia to OTE sto thema tou sniffing

    Quote Originally Posted by xaniaras View Post
    oso afora to surf lock ton karton exi ly8ei ...edo kai kairo
    to neo frouto pou eskase h 8a skash muth eine to aglonet(diki mou onomasia)
    afto to poustiko stelnei mazi me ta cw kai 1 byte ston provaider
    fhmes lene oti me 10 cw mporei na dosi olo to mac tis kartas
    ston paroxo..me ta gnosta apotelesmata.
    to nds3 exi kani tetoia kinhsh kai min ksexnas einei to idio prama
    me tous olandous tis irdto.. afta ta nea tis aleksadras
    Kai pos to stelnei afto to byte ston provider? den to epiasa? an milas gia tous kenourgious dektes pou arxise na dinei i kiria pou exoun ethernet pao paso.. allios pos ginete afto?

    Quote Originally Posted by xaniaras View Post
    oso afora to vpn den kerdizeis apolitos tipota..kai eksigo:
    esto porta 13000 open kai alisferisi me 30 clients ana 10 second ...se snifer tis 4 net ...alla kodikopihsh aes ...ti kani niaou niaou sta
    keramidia??? pezi o server fifa on line me 30?? h eine se peer kai dinei mp3...min trela8oume
    Diladi ego stin eteria pou eimai kai exo 25 polites kai mpenoun oloi me VPN imaste edo mesa ipopsifioi enoxoi gia CS? ti stigmi pou akoma kai to paradigma pou les den kollaei... oi 30 Client se CS den zitane taftoxrona kai oi 30 klidi alla o kathenas sto xrono tou h stin allagi kanaliou diladi mporei na iparksi stigmi ontos pou kai oi 30 tha zitisoun mazi alla afto einai antistixo me to na kerdisis to lotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluechri View Post
    Den me katalavaineis. Antilamvanese ti exoplismo thelei gia na snifaris tous 2 ekatomiria pelates pou exei h forthnet?(min to perneis to noumero tis metritis). Milame pos oso einai o proipologismos tis kirias gia to 2010 tha prepei na dapanithi gia afto to logo... 1 to kratoumeno.


    Kai pos to kanei vre kai o OTE afto? oti isxiei gia tin F0rθnet isxiei kai gia to OTE sto thema tou sniffing



    Kai pos to stelnei afto to byte ston provider? den to epiasa? an milas gia tous kenourgious dektes pou arxise na dinei i kiria pou exoun ethernet pao paso.. allios pos ginete afto?



    Diladi ego stin eteria pou eimai kai exo 25 polites kai mpenoun oloi me VPN imaste edo mesa ipopsifioi enoxoi gia CS? ti stigmi pou akoma kai to paradigma pou les den kollaei... oi 30 Client se CS den zitane taftoxrona kai oi 30 klidi alla o kathenas sto xrono tou h stin allagi kanaliou diladi mporei na iparksi stigmi ontos pou kai oi 30 tha zitisoun mazi alla afto einai antistixo me to na kerdisis to lotto.
    kala edaksi ///ti nomizeis oti eine h 4net to pc to diko sou kai tou filou sou me ta xp kai ta 7 ///telos padon afta den legode public//
    sto cs to cw exi mege8os syxnothta kai diarkia ..to na to kruptografisis den mas leei tipota . den tous niazei ti periexi poses fores 8a to po.

    to prama exi os eksis ///den snifaroun olo ton kosmo hmatrton...exou mia pliroforia apo roufiano
    h apo vromes ton pelaton ...ma8enoun peripou perioxi ...meta koitoun portes
    eki pano apo 10000 kai eidika thn 12000 thn eixan kseskisi ..to ksero POLY kala afto
    kai se vazoun sthn lista gia 20 meres..eine efiktotato ..exoun kai idiko domatio ...gia thn douleia.

    esy sth etairia sou stelneis 10byte ana 10 second se 30 pelates kai adistrofa?? ti doulevete dos 6.22??
    to oti oloi exoun vpn servers etairies idiotes trapezes ATM ktlp den eine kati neo xarhkame polu///
    les na sniffaroun kai ta atm kai afta vpn eine ...telos padon an 8elis kanto peirama
    na dis ti 8a ginei aloste afto ekanan kai kati filoi mesa se< Eidiko xoro > kai to eixan me nabilo vpn
    kai mia mera tous hr8e o eisageleas me thn ektyposi ti ginodan sthn porta tou router tous
    pios to ektypose o papas tis enorias?? min milate ama den kserete..

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    Sostos .. simfono mazi sou se ola giati tora to eksigises. Olo to thema ksekinaei opos les apo vromes h apo kapoio roufiano. Giati etsi opos to eixes pei pos snifaroun to diktio tous mou epesan ta malia giati asxolieme me diktia engenei kai afto den ginete to kefali tous ston tixo na varane gia olous tous pelates tis.

    Ara an simfoneis na sinopsisoume se kapoia pragmatakia kai na kanoume enan odigo sigourias sto CS xoris vevea tipota na einai sigouro alla toulaxiston na einai opoios to kanei oso poio asfaleis ginete.

    Kanoume CS me ton exis tropo
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    1.
    Ligoi pelates kai sigouroi (Oikogenia kai filoi kai oloi tsekarismenoi 100%)

    2. Oloi me dektes pou na exoun VPN gia na sigourepsoume ligo ta pragmata.

    3. Pelates Internet tis Kirias na einai mono Client kai na min asxolithoun me to na mirazoun giati afksanoun tis pithanotites na entopistoun kai fisika me VPN.

    4. Portes xamiles se noumero kai kata protimisi portes pou kanonika xrisimopoiounte apo programmata pou se esas einai axristes... (den thelo na emvathino sto thema signomi)

    5. Den sindeoume Client pano mas apo to exoteriko giati 99% oi sigkekrimenoi einai Pay-Server. (To sigkekrimeno to anafero giati paratiro se forum tora pou pethanan ola ta gatonia kai oi chites polous ksenous na parakalan gia na sindethoun se peers me kartes tis kirias. Afto to kanei kapoios gia na pari kapoio mpouketo tou exoterikou alla i simvouli mou einai na eiste prosektikoi an to kanete).

    6. Den dinoume grammes apo NewCS se kanenan gia kanena logo ... min rotate to giati

    7. Stis F: grammes stous client mas opoioi kai na einai den tous afinoume na mporoun na mirasoun poio kato tin karta pou tous dinoume. Afto epitinxanete me tin F grammi mesa stis aggiles.... px
    F: Pelatis1 Pelatis1 3 0 0 { 0:0:1)
    me afti ti grammi to 1 sto telos tou dini dikaioma na vlepei MONO Ekeinos.

    8. Enas mono client tha dini EMM kai kata protimisi kalo einai o client aftos na eimaste emeis oi idioi pou mirazoume gia na min afksanei i kinisi tou internet. Gia na to petixoume afto stin parapano grammi vazoume 1 to 3o mideniko kai i grammi ginete os exis
    F: Pelatis1 Pelatis1 3 0 1 { 0:0:1)
    Episis o client pou tha dini ta emm sto connect tha exei YES diladi
    C: ToDynDnstouServer 12000 Pelatis1 Pelatis1 yes { 0:0:3 }

    9. Rithmizoume to Cccam ή to Newcs mas me tis entoles Sid Assign gia na kserei o server mas ti kanalia pragmatika mporei na kseklidosi i karta mas. Afto exei san apotelesma miosi tis kinisis tou diktiou kai ligoteri doulia gia tin karta.

    10. Sto NewCS Rithmizoume ta Cache an einai DM se max 10-10 eno an einai kati linux PC mexri 20-20.

    11. Gia na prolavoume tin anavathmisi tou roufianou pou leei o filos xaniaras KSILONOUME to internet apo to dekti pou mirazei diladi tou ksilonoume to DNS kai to Gateway me apotelesma o sigkekrimenos dektis na min exei internet para na iparxei sto diktio mas mono.

    12. Rithmizoume to cccam i to newcs stamatontas ta na pernoun GA updates me tis exis grammes
    Sto cccam vazoume tin exis grammi
    B: /dev/ttyUSB0 04 (allazoume to ttyUSB0 sto antistixo reader pou xrisimopoioume)
    An exoume NewCs
    <blockga>Yes</blockga>

    Afta skeftomai pros stigmin ....opoios thelei as voithisi

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