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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    exo mia f3 kai mia f17 yparxei kati na psaxto?

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Kαλησπερα σε ολη την ταξη.Υπαρχει καμια βοηθεια σε f10?
    Eχω ταισεi τη γατα με το τελευταιο np που κυκλοφορησε αλλα δεν μπορω να βρω string.

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Quote Originally Posted by freesatman View Post
    Καλησπέρα, να ρωτήσω κάποια πράγματα που μπορεί να λύσουν απορίες και σε άλλους συμμαθητές ....

    Αυτά τα κλειδιά καταλόγους -δεικτών (index keys) βρίσκονται μέσα στην πρώτη γραμμή την λεγόμενη 60αρα? .. ή οποία για τον λόγο αυτό διαφέρει σε κάθε αρχείο ? Και σε πόσες διαφορετικές θέσεις / περιπτώσεις δείχνουνε αυτά ... σε 128 ας πούμε?
    oxi, to index to exo ksanapei polles fores, einai o arithmos meta to 02010000 ...ekeino leei ston algorithmo tis kartas sou , oti gia na kaneis decrypt afti tin grammi prepei na dialekseis apo tin esoteriki sou lista to kleidi pou einai stin thesi 0x - opou x einai apo 0 os F , 16 sindiasmoi. Aplos se kathe partida kartas einai diaforetika orismena kleidia kai etsi den pernoun oles oi kartes tis idies grammes.Giafto kai exete F2 kai F3 kai paei legontas.Oi 60res gia GRC den einai diaforetikes, oles periexoun ta idia stoixeia mesa , aplos fenonte diaforetikes otan einai kriptografimenes epeidi allazoun kapies plirofories apo mesa pou den xrisimopiounte.Otan se mia seira me bytes allakseis esto kai ena byte kai kaneis kriptografisi , analoga me to eidos tis kriptografisis mporei na allaksei telios to teliko apotelesma.

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Pedia apo oti katalawa den mporoume na taksinomisoume tis kartes me afton ton tropo,
    Tha sas po ti anakalipsa, Exo 2 f17, me to 5_ mou ewgazan idio HSN ke Pro00, exthes aniksa tin mia me to NP. i ali wgazi allo HSN mi energo!!!!

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    epiveveono kai ego. kai ego kai h dikh mou f 17 me NP den eide fos

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Quote Originally Posted by snakie View Post
    oxi, to index to exo ksanapei polles fores, einai o arithmos meta to 02010000 ...ekeino leei ston algorithmo tis kartas sou , oti gia na kaneis decrypt afti tin grammi prepei na dialekseis apo tin esoteriki sou lista to kleidi pou einai stin thesi 0x - opou x einai apo 0 os F , 16 sindiasmoi. Aplos se kathe partida kartas einai diaforetika orismena kleidia kai etsi den pernoun oles oi kartes tis idies grammes.Giafto kai exete F2 kai F3 kai paei legontas.Oi 60res gia GRC den einai diaforetikes, oles periexoun ta idia stoixeia mesa , aplos fenonte diaforetikes otan einai kriptografimenes epeidi allazoun kapies plirofories apo mesa pou den xrisimopiounte.Otan se mia seira me bytes allakseis esto kai ena byte kai kaneis kriptografisi , analoga me to eidos tis kriptografisis mporei na allaksei telios to teliko apotelesma.
    Είσαι πολύ κατατοπιστικός και σε ευχαριστώ πολύ ! Επιτέλους μου έγινε πλήρως κατανοητό τι εννοούσες στα προηγούμενα post ...

    Να υποθέσω ότι οι 16 συνδυασμοί είναι τα abUpdateKeys στον κώδικά του ΟS ...δηλαδή τα 256 FF στην αρχική εκδοχή ... οπότε μπορεί σε μια γενιά τα key index να είναι ίδια μέχρι το 4ο π.χ. και να αλλάζουν τα υπόλοιπα ... και στην περίπτωση που ένα φαγητό λέει στον index 3 δηλαδή δούλεψε το 3ο abUpdateKey να βγάζει ίδιο HNS σε όλη την γενιά ... ενώ σε άλλο φαγάκι να δείχνει στο 5ο abUpdateKey οπότε αφού είναι διαφορετικό στην ίδια αυτή γενιά ... τότε δίνει διαφορετικό HNS. Δηλαδή αυτή η γενιά ... μετά το 4ο abUpdateKey παύει να υφίσταται .... ως σταθερή κατηγορία / μητρώο ...

    Αυτό λοιπόν είναι, που δίνει τις λεγόμενες "εξαιρέσεις" στις κατηγορίες του δάσκαλου Ampeliotis ........

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiato View Post
    Pedia apo oti katalawa den mporoume na taksinomisoume tis kartes me afton ton tropo,
    Tha sas po ti anakalipsa, Exo 2 f17, me to 5_ mou ewgazan idio HSN ke Pro00, exthes aniksa tin mia me to NP. i ali wgazi allo HSN mi energo!!!!
    Afto pou les kiato to exoume idi episimani poles fores pos se kapia f exoume ipokatigories kai giafton ton logo ginete diastavrosi me ton gigata
    pou ine kai to ikegeniako dento tis gatas.

    Se genikes grames omos oloi sinfonoume pos i praspathia pou kanoume edo gia tin evresi tou mitroou kai to vaftisma se f afini poli xrisima simperasmata
    kai oloi mas kati parapano mathenoume.

    Afto exi san apotelesma polla pedia asxeta an postaroun diavazoun kai tous dinete i efkeria na simetexoun stin praktiki eksaskisi pou kanoume
    kai tha sineisoume kai tis epomenes meres.

    Iparxoun kai ala fagita pou mporoun na mas voithisoune gia diastavromenes plirofories oste na mporoume me veveotita na ksekinisoume kai steis ipokatigories ton F.?

    Ena apo afta ine kai to 17-11-2008 pou mas edine fos gia kapious mines kai to ixame san ena apo ta kalitera elefthera fagita gia olous mas.

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Geia f5 kai f8 exoume kanena antidoto??Apo simera to proi 2 stis 2 skotadia.Opoios exei oreksi na dosei ena podi voitheias tha tou eimoun eugnomon.

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    ampelioti kalispera.1 gata pou eipoteithete oti itan f3 me ro sapio arxeio, me toy 17-11 mou vgazei to deytero f36.soy grafo kai hsn 07A94F kai prov03EB90.ston de giganta trexa gireye pou eine to 2 f.

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    Re: Ergasia Gia Tin Evresi Tou Mitroou F? Tis Gata Mou!

    Quote Originally Posted by snakie View Post
    oxi, to index to exo ksanapei polles fores, einai o arithmos meta to 02010000 ...ekeino leei ston algorithmo tis kartas sou , oti gia na kaneis decrypt afti tin grammi prepei na dialekseis apo tin esoteriki sou lista to kleidi pou einai stin thesi 0x - opou x einai apo 0 os F , 16 sindiasmoi. Aplos se kathe partida kartas einai diaforetika orismena kleidia kai etsi den pernoun oles oi kartes tis idies grammes.Giafto kai exete F2 kai F3 kai paei legontas.Oi 60res gia GRC den einai diaforetikes, oles periexoun ta idia stoixeia mesa , aplos fenonte diaforetikes otan einai kriptografimenes epeidi allazoun kapies plirofories apo mesa pou den xrisimopiounte.Otan se mia seira me bytes allakseis esto kai ena byte kai kaneis kriptografisi , analoga me to eidos tis kriptografisis mporei na allaksei telios to teliko apotelesma.
    Efxaristo ton kirio snakie gia tis politimes plirofories pou kapou kapou mas dini kai prospathi me oso to dinaton pio aplo tropo na mas pliroforisi.

    O singekrimenos filos ton telefteo kero ine enas apo tous 5 politimoterous kai kalous pextes pou vriskonte anamesa mas stin Elliniki Kinotita.

    Asxeta pou emeis vriskomaste se epipedo nipiagogiou kai sta prota vimata kapou kapou mas episkeptete kai ton efxaristoume.

    Exo kai ego na tou kano kapies erotiseis ala stin poria kai tin katalili stigmi.

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