Empty ECM cacheex

[TV_LICENCE]

hi!
answers to some of your questions

Confusion all along... "payservers that 'send ECMs' without a user requesting for it ?" Say what ?

you should hear at least about dongles?
if not please do quick search how they work

Bottomline.. Please stop posting negatively about cache-ex, and stop demotivating people to use it with reasons that are not in the interest of the main public of this forum.

I will post what I think is necessary to post and nobody will ever change my point - I'm not a small child. And I believe I have an idea of what is good for community spirit and what is not
Besides I'M on this forum MANY YEARS and will keep posting my point of view until administration will find it appropriate. But if for whatever reason it will be found that my post are no appropriate or not need sadly but I will move elsewhere.

It almost seems that _you_ have some interest to stop cache-ex. I'm curious to know.

yes I have an interest to stop cachex - at least in the form it is existing right now
my reason is quite simple I'm enthusiast not a trader and I hate when people try to use CS for money.
reasons how cacheex can be used by payservers were stated by me above and in other threads as well

thanks

[wannaplay]

So i've been thinking about how to use cacheex in a moral way and in immoral ways... now see how it can be used in a way that's beneficial for the community, i won't go into details... for the same reason capncook didn't say anything i guess, if i'm thinking what he's thinking... cardsharing is already immoral and is stealing... so what the heck hey, a bit more "sharing" around the community won't hurt... for sharers and the robin hoods of the cardsharing world its all good, its just another way of getting "free" stuff. I've tried to find ways in which i could take advantage of the "free" cache and see ways in which people would use it, lets just say its just more "free" sharing and using whats available. Payservers as usual ruin it for everyone...

[TV_LICENCE]

you still don't get it ..... if the things will continue the way they getting now it will no cardsharing soon
after introduction of cache exchange (not only Ocsam) within 2 years Providers took such a measures they never did in 10 years before that
for now every dog is selling cs accounts in the different ways for the price less then few pints of beer

I used to do CS on on quite simple receivers with possibility to watch ANYTHING POSIISBLE. For now I moved to PC because I have too many different cards from different providers, but most of them cheap prepaid or some of my friend they brought from back home. That PC I use not only for CS but for gaming and some other things as well. So it cost me really not too much. I do not do cacheex any more , but I'm still able to watch anything possible on CS.

But when I hear that some people dedicate for Cacheex PC worth at least 700 quid (plus obviously receiver) just for cacheex and claiming to have it for hobbies.... I just say "wtf"

[wannaplay]

Dude... its taking advantage of what there is, while we have it... its like me not using my girlfriends big boobs while i have them to myself,
before they sag, its a mistake, use what you have while you have it... i've regretted this in the past... not taking advantage of things while i've had them... for stupid moral reasons!


The tv companies should see it as, were getting some money off people that wouldn't actually pay for our service... i know i for
sure i wouldn't pay for my local provider... especially at their current prices, so their actually getting some money of of me when they wouldn't...


The problem here is payservers... and this is what the tv companies should be concentrating on... not the individual sharers that have their own paying local card.


i don't think its necessarily a bad idea for tv companies to keep cardhsharing alive... they'll just probably try and reduce the amount of sharing that can be done... so that they can get more money off you and crack down on the payservers...

cacheex does have its uses... even if there are freezes in the image... thats what i've realised once i went through the moral and immoral ways of using cacheex... people do what they want with their money, if cacheex is that important to them... but it does suggest illegal usage (payservers) if people are going all out on buying rigs and internet connections for the sole purpose of just using cacheex... you don't even need a pc or dedicated internet connection to use cacheex that would be beneficial to the average cardsharer...

[m404]

cardsharing is about sharing what you cannot get legally.
the point of cardsharing never was, and never should've been, to use your local payTV without paying (you can buy that legally, go and fucking buy it legally).

cacheex is nothing else but a further development ... it breaks no rules whatsoever, and it certainly isn't "only helpful to payservers" (what the ... ?).
in fact, if a group of friends (even online friends) that have the same card, share their cache between each other, they will _substantially_ lower the load on their cards ... that's _exactly_ what cache exchange was made for.
your assumption that the "big huge payserver usage" was intentional, is absurd, and makes no sense at all, especially when you read up on the changes that are being made in the trunk (there's a plethora of features that don't even work for such huge cache pools like payservers usually are ...).

You don't want to cache exchange, fine, absolutely ok imho!
But accusing those that enjoy it of "ruining the future of cardsharing" is ridiculous ... first in line for that blame would be all those forums that don't give a crap about being decent anymore, and that are shouting out to the whole wide web "COME AND GET YOUR LINES HERE"...