Card Provider ECM times

[SlickMick]

After being on a dish pointing at 28.2e I have upgraded to a new motorized dish and I am now searching for other sats.
The trouble I am now having is that i have no idea what the different ECM times are for the different card providers.

I know that Videoguard2 (NDS - Sky UK), a good local has an ECM time of 120ms - 150ms and freezing would occur after around 600ms. Is this also true for all other cards ran under Videogugard2?

I wonder is we could make a list of the different card providers and make a list of what a good local ECM time and an ECM time before a freeze would happen.

This would help people understand what times to look for when sharing local to local.

Videoguard2: 120ms - 600ms
Seca:
Viaccess:
Irdeto:
Conax:
Cryptworks:
Betacrypt:
Nagra:
Bulcrypt:

[TV_LICENCE]

hi!
As I wrote too many times before (see my posts) It is possible to spot the faker much easier. more then 90% of fakers can be found without looking for ECM times.
Faking by itself is a silly thing to do and the rest of actions of those people are silly as well

when I comes to ECM times is is important factor but not decisive, besides it's there are methods you can fake them and everything is not so easy as you may think

* quality of internet - most of people these days using ADSL - but ADSL internet connection both ping and Mb varies, they are never stable
* Reader in use - different readers give different best times for the different cards
* Emu in use and settings
* Load on the card - more busier your card gets the higher ECM times

** you really can not give the universal ECM times for any particular Encryption ( even NDS you brought as example) Ecm times varies in different caids and even within same caid but different rom version.

I could give most of caid ECM time stats, but I do not want to make fakers jobs easier
as a rule except of very few caids anything more then 800-900ms is fake

P.S NDS best ECM times start not from 120ms but from around 80ms

thanks

[uk_bttv_satuk]

correct mate, uk ecms are normally from 80-150 is good
some other ecms like polsat ect i think start at 200-400 but maybe wrong