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View Poll Results: Will Nagravision 3 ever be hacked, what do you think?

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  • N3 will never be hacked!

    238 18.71%
  • Hackers are working on it and they will hack it within the next 3 months...

    255 20.05%
  • It will take hackers years to finally open Nagra 3...

    179 14.07%
  • Secretly hackers already hacked Nagra 3 but they keep things for themself this time...

    600 47.17%
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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    Actually I do not think that any encryption has ever actually been broken, form classical hacking point of view, I mean from DVB stream. In most cases encryption cards been just reverse engineered and if going further, found master codes from them. Besides even to find the Biss Key from DVB stream takes about 250 years on a single computer.

    When it comes to Nagravison then Nagravison 1 is still as mathematically secure as it was on the day it was first wheeled out. Mathematically Nagravison 3 isn't really that much different to Nagravison 2 which is only slightly different to Nagravison 1. The key sizes have changes a little bit and parts of the actual algorithm used have changed but it’s really cosmetic.
    The ONLY reason N1 was broken was that NDS completely reverse engineered the card in their labs in Israel and then "leaked" information to a certain hacker who then used this to find the good old "Nipper" backdoor. But NDS and Christopher Tarnovsky got stung for R.E the Nagravison cards. In a massive court case, so its highly unlikely they will risk it again.
    Nagravison 2 was only really cracked because Kudelski was lazy and re-used codes/techniques that they used in the Nagravison 1 card. That plus the fact there was a lot of money thrown at the card to have it reverse engineered in an Eastern European lab !

    No encryption was ever broken. It’s simply that the card has coding bugs which allows things that it shouldn't.

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    Smile Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    hah u dont get it do u?
    N3 will NEVER be hacked

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    came on man we are in 2009 don`t say that!

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    i will tell you when N3 will be open. ore how we get it open.

    it wil go the same as it went whit seca 2 to seca3.

    when the provider do a card switch then thy will publish it.

    hackers want to keep it for them selfs.

    greetz

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by some888 View Post
    Actually I do not think that any encryption has ever actually been broken, form classical hacking point of view, I mean from DVB stream. In most cases encryption cards been just reverse engineered and if going further, found master codes from them. Besides even to find the Biss Key from DVB stream takes about 250 years on a single computer.

    When it comes to Nagravison then Nagravison 1 is still as mathematically secure as it was on the day it was first wheeled out. Mathematically Nagravison 3 isn't really that much different to Nagravison 2 which is only slightly different to Nagravison 1. The key sizes have changes a little bit and parts of the actual algorithm used have changed but it’s really cosmetic.
    The ONLY reason N1 was broken was that NDS completely reverse engineered the card in their labs in Israel and then "leaked" information to a certain hacker who then used this to find the good old "Nipper" backdoor. But NDS and Christopher Tarnovsky got stung for R.E the Nagravison cards. In a massive court case, so its highly unlikely they will risk it again.
    Nagravison 2 was only really cracked because Kudelski was lazy and re-used codes/techniques that they used in the Nagravison 1 card. That plus the fact there was a lot of money thrown at the card to have it reverse engineered in an Eastern European lab !

    No encryption was ever broken. It’s simply that the card has coding bugs which allows things that it shouldn't.
    This is one and only truth...other things are useless chat....

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    looks like its bad news for n3 hack.

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    Viewsat to release files soon? Their main sites say's "N3 Files expected anytime" and their forums are offline....looks promising?in usa

    Saludos...

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by DAB View Post
    Viewsat to release files soon? Their main sites say's "N3 Files expected anytime" and their forums are offline....looks promising?in usa

    Saludos...
    that sign stays there forever, don't trust anyone till you see it.....

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    Re: Nagravision 3 Hack Comming or Not?

    what can i say... today we can celebrate./ , nagravision 3 is craked,everything will be used against them.

    keys to decrypt




    teamsengineers

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